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Irina Fleming
Irina Fleming
Estados Unidos
Local time: 22:40
russo para inglês
more individuals Apr 3

Hello, everybody!
I have not received anything like what was mentioned by the topic starter but I do get some requests for the translation and if I start asking them more questions, they just give me attachment file for translation and say they will pay with bank money order or bank transfer, what happened with other ways of payments that seem to be safer and more... modern? like cash-app or paypal. Does it sound suspicious for you guys here too?


 
Daryo
Daryo
Reino Unido
Local time: 05:40
sérvio para inglês
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A scammer with real contact details? Apr 4

And mentioned in the local press?

This church is about about as much "real" as at least half of the agencies posting jobs.

If you have a potential interest in that kind of texts, FIRST make sure that whoever claims to represent them really has authority to do so.

But then even very "real" clients are not necessarily the kind of clients that you want to have. See my previous post.

BTW their websi
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And mentioned in the local press?

This church is about about as much "real" as at least half of the agencies posting jobs.

If you have a potential interest in that kind of texts, FIRST make sure that whoever claims to represent them really has authority to do so.

But then even very "real" clients are not necessarily the kind of clients that you want to have. See my previous post.

BTW their website is in fact https://gclchurch.us/ while the subdomain https://en.gclchurch.us/ is the English version of it.

[Edited at 2024-04-05 06:01 GMT]
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Jessica Coppola
Jessica Coppola
França
Local time: 06:40
Membro (2016)
inglês para francês
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Yep Apr 12

I just received the exact same mail from an Emma this time.
I really don't know what to think.


 
Mathieu Domec
Mathieu Domec  Identity Verified
França
Local time: 06:40
inglês para francês
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scam Apr 15

I also received a translation request from them.
After a quick search on their website, you can realize that it's hosted by OVH (a French company) in Roubais, with a VPN... Surprisingly, from what I understand, most of the translators here were asked to translate the same amount of documents, that is, 3 books and from English to French...

It kinda screams "scam" all over the place to me, because in my opinion, OVH is not that popular in the USA, especially compared to others,
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I also received a translation request from them.
After a quick search on their website, you can realize that it's hosted by OVH (a French company) in Roubais, with a VPN... Surprisingly, from what I understand, most of the translators here were asked to translate the same amount of documents, that is, 3 books and from English to French...

It kinda screams "scam" all over the place to me, because in my opinion, OVH is not that popular in the USA, especially compared to others, such as Hostinger, A2Hosting etc...
For a Church located in NYC, it doesn't fit... xD
So beware!

You can go to Hosting Checker and enter their website address to make sure.
Anyway, here's my 2 cents. I hope this info will be useful to some of you.

Good luck !

[Edited at 2024-04-15 18:42 GMT]
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Célia Thévenet
Célia Thévenet
França
Local time: 06:40
inglês para francês
A very dangerous sect Apr 22

Hello,

I have been contacted too. They sent me a sample to translate. It was in English, a translation from a Chinese text, and they wanted me to translate it in French. There was a glossary. I started reading the glossary and I was a bit intrigued. As a Christian myself, I didn't quite understand some translations.

I asked for more information regarding the translation, and the answer was:
"What you are translating are live sermons delivered by Christ of the las
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Hello,

I have been contacted too. They sent me a sample to translate. It was in English, a translation from a Chinese text, and they wanted me to translate it in French. There was a glossary. I started reading the glossary and I was a bit intrigued. As a Christian myself, I didn't quite understand some translations.

I asked for more information regarding the translation, and the answer was:
"What you are translating are live sermons delivered by Christ of the last days."

And I did my research. And I found that behind all this, there is a sect called "The Church of Almighty God", and it is quite disturbing. Here is a link if you want to know more: https://www.gotquestions.org/Church-of-Almighty-God.html .

Have a good day,

Célia Thévenet.
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Luciana Bonancio
Luciana Bonancio  Identity Verified
Brasil
Local time: 01:40
Membro (2016)
inglês para português
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Scam Apr 26

I received the same e-mail but to translate into Portuguese, after a few questions about the project, I sent her the link to this discussion. She stopped answering me.

 
Same here Apr 30

Luciana Bonancio wrote:

I received the same e-mail but to translate into Portuguese, after a few questions about the project, I sent her the link to this discussion. She stopped answering me.



Was her name Arabella?


 
SCRYPTORIUM
SCRYPTORIUM
França
Local time: 06:40
Membro (2019)
inglês para francês
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Not a scam Jun 9

Hello,

After reading the alarming previous posts I must give a more realistic view on this topic. I have been working a few months now as a freelance reviewer (English to French) for the Multilingual Translation Services of The Good Canaan Land Church based in New York and I can say that it is not a scam. They prefer to contact translators/reviewers selected as potentially appropriate professionals for their specific projects. If they contact you, it means that they trust you have t
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Hello,

After reading the alarming previous posts I must give a more realistic view on this topic. I have been working a few months now as a freelance reviewer (English to French) for the Multilingual Translation Services of The Good Canaan Land Church based in New York and I can say that it is not a scam. They prefer to contact translators/reviewers selected as potentially appropriate professionals for their specific projects. If they contact you, it means that they trust you have the relevant skills. They have a huge project for book translations (I have been performing revisions + third party revisions for about 20 000 words/week), the PM are very serious about their material and the glossary which is probably the real challenge here as a translator. Until now my invoices have been paid timely and fully, the communication is abundant and only aims to improve the collaboration for the best translation and you get feedback on your work as in any agency.
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Baran Keki
Baran Keki  Identity Verified
Turquia
Local time: 07:40
Membro
inglês para turco
Ordained Jun 9

SCRYPTORIUM wrote:
the Multilingual Translation Services of The Good Canaan Land Church based in New York. If they contact you, it means that they trust you have the relevant skills.

This awfully sounds like if they contact you, it's because you're the 'chosen one' to do the Lord's work.
Labour of love, if nothing else... it should be sin to even consider getting paid, and you can't scam the God!
I expect many would give their right arm to be 'chosen' by the divine authority.


 
SCRYPTORIUM
SCRYPTORIUM
França
Local time: 06:40
Membro (2019)
inglês para francês
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This is not a debate about religious fanaticism but professional translation services Jun 10

Baran Keki wrote:

SCRYPTORIUM wrote:
the Multilingual Translation Services of The Good Canaan Land Church based in New York. If they contact you, it means that they trust you have the relevant skills.

This awfully sounds like if they contact you, it's because you're the 'chosen one' to do the Lord's work.
Labour of love, if nothing else... it should be sin to even consider getting paid, and you can't scam the God!
I expect many would give their right arm to be 'chosen' by the divine authority.


I am talking only as a professional translator and not as a "devotee", I mentioned the skills as translator, nothing else, and you can work for any client without being involved with their business, religious or not, this is absolutely not the point. This is just an answer to the question: "Is it a scam?"

[Edited at 2024-06-10 08:53 GMT]

[Edited at 2024-06-10 09:22 GMT]

[Edited at 2024-06-10 09:22 GMT]


Baran Keki
 
Janina Haugg
Janina Haugg  Identity Verified
Reino Unido
Local time: 05:40
Membro (2012)
inglês para alemão
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My experience Jun 11

I was also contacted by this organisation. They seem to be operating under various different names, in my case it was The Church of Dawn’s Light. I did not get the impression that they were scammers, but that they are a dangerous sect. All of these different churches seem to be operating under the umbrella of Eastern Lightning. I found more info ... See more
I was also contacted by this organisation. They seem to be operating under various different names, in my case it was The Church of Dawn’s Light. I did not get the impression that they were scammers, but that they are a dangerous sect. All of these different churches seem to be operating under the umbrella of Eastern Lightning. I found more info here: https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Eastern_Lightning#Sneaky.2C_superficially_independent_websites_with_unclear_relation_with_the_sect
see also the section Translation, which mentions that they use professional translators for their translations. Googling Eastern Lightning returns “interesting” results.
When I confronted them about my suspicions, I never heard back, which I took as confirmation. So it seems if you are tempted to work with them, non-payment won’t be the issue, but you have to decide whether you want to actively contribute to their doings.
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Baran Keki
 
Baran Keki
Baran Keki  Identity Verified
Turquia
Local time: 07:40
Membro
inglês para turco
So it does involve religulous fanaticism after all? Jun 11

Janina Haugg wrote:
So it seems if you are tempted to work with them, non-payment won’t be the issue, but you have to decide whether you want to actively contribute to their doings.

I said as much about getting paid in my previous post. We had a Muslim version of that cult here in Turkey. The guy turned out to be a pimp. He recruited female translators and, for want of a better word, he 'transformed' them into weird creatures...
Though, I gotta say, 1000 years in prison was a bit harsh... poor chap.
https://guardian.ng/life/turkish-religious-cult-leader-jailed-for-1000-years-for-sex-crimes/?utm_term=Autofeed&echobox=twitter_post&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1610379072


 
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