Glossary entry

inglês term or phrase:

WIND BROKEN

português translation:

(cavalo) se esforçou demais.. foi obrigado a se esforçar demais

Added to glossary by airmailrpl
Jun 27, 2010 17:43
14 yrs ago
inglês term

WIND BROKEN

inglês para português Ciências Humanas Outros EQUITAÇÃO
«The horses will be OK, unless their wind is broken.»

O personagem refere-se a cavalos que estão a ser perseguidos a toda a velocidade por uma matilha de cães.
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Jul 4, 2010 19:04: airmailrpl Created KOG entry

Discussion

amefi Jun 28, 2010:
Na verdade, Manoel, se eles têm a doença e realizam esforço extremo podem estar em risco. Portadores dessa doença só servem pra trabalhos moderados. Veja: "O prognóstico para os cavalos de corrida e trabalho intenso é desfavorável, pois estes se tornam deficientes em termos de respiração, devido à baixa capacidade de captação de oxigênio, mas em relação à vida dos mesmos se torna bom para os cavalos de trabalho moderado e destinados à reprodução", em http://www.abqm.com.br/SecaoTecnica/DoencaPulmonar.asp
Manuel O (asker) Jun 28, 2010:
As for further context, here it is (again): It's a scene in an adventure novel set in Roman times. The horses are being chased by tribesmen and their dogs. The two heroes who ride them dismount at some point and hide. The horses keep running in terror, riderless, chased by the tribesmen. In their hiding place one of the heroes then says: "I can't stop thinking about those poor horses", and the other replies "they'll be OK, unless their wind is broken. These tribesmen don't kill horses." BUT he seems to imply that this "broken wind" will be their doom or will cause them to be permanently disabled. Earlier in the story when the heroes try to sell other horses, the man they're dealing with refuses to buy them because "their wind is broken". So, is it possible that after an excessive effort, an horse becomes in some way disabled, or chronically ill?
liz askew Jun 28, 2010:
Dear amefi. Thank you for your further references and comments, both here and privately.
amefi Jun 28, 2010:
dictionary reference Please, once again, check http://www.merriam-webster.com/medical/wind-broken
liz askew Jun 28, 2010:
wouldn't "shortness of breath" be more suitable?
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:q8J28In...
liz askew Jun 28, 2010:
Seriously, again, I would not to wish to offend an expert on horses, but why are they riding/using horses who are suffering from a serious respiratory disorder? This is cruel surely. I would be grateful for further Portuguese context. I am only concerned about these horses.
liz askew Jun 27, 2010:
From my understanding this is about horse-riding, and horses maybe running out of breath, particularly if they are chased by a pack of dogs?
amefi Jun 27, 2010:
Doença equina Wind brake = nome comum da doença pulmonar obstrutiva crônica. Comum em animais estabulados de meia idade. Comumente chamado no Brasil de BRONQUITE CRÔNICA.

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(cavalo) se esforçou demais.. foi obrigado a se esforçar demais

A horse having his wind broke is a term I have not heard in years. I do know a lot of the old timers used it a lot.
I am not sure what a technical term would be. I have always thought of it as a horse that was worked so hard, pushed so hard that it caused breathing problems (lung damage?). They always said it was permanent, that the symptoms would go away, but show up anytime the horse was worked.
http://www.horsegroomingsupplies.com/horse-forums/broken-win...
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perderem o fòlego

outra interpretação
Peer comment(s):

agree liz askew : from my understanding of the English.
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Liz, thank you and have a nice week, Antonio
disagree amefi : Please refer to http://www.merriam-webster.com/medical/wind-broken
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tenham bronquite crônica

Como postado na discussão, wind brake, heaves, são nomes comuns de uma doença respiratória obstrutiva crônica de equinos alimentados com rações em pó, criados em estábulos com acúmulo de amônia, entre outras causas que causam estreitamento das vias respiratórias. Sou veterinária!

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Note added at 3 horas (2010-06-27 21:37:39 GMT)
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Reference for the ilness in English: broken wind — see chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, in http://www.answers.com/topic/wind.
Example sentence:

A citar afecções do órgão respiratório como a inflamação do complexo traqueobrônquico acompanhada de obstrução é uma ocorrência comum nos equinos, especialmente submetido a dietas com altas incidências de pó

Peer comment(s):

disagree liz askew : seriously, I disagreed with this earlier. Why would they be riding/using horses with serious respiratory conditions. This would give the equestrian centre/riders a terrible reputation for being cruel.
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It is a chronic disease, sometimes only detected during exercise ; )
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atacados pela pulmoeira

wind1 [wInd]

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(cavalo)
wind-broken
atacado pela pulmoeira;
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© Porto Editora, Lda. - 2000
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Reference comments

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Reference:

Hi
I don't think this means the horses have an illness "broken-winded", but rather they get out of breath


Are there any fast wild horses? - Red Dead Redemption - Neoseeker ...
21 May 2010 ... It should read TALL TREES when you get there. ... Do these fast horses have agility and stamina or run out of breath easily? ...
www.neoseeker.com/forums/42240/t1540265-any-fast-wild-horse... - Cached
Note from asker:
Thanks, Liz. I think you're closer to the right answer. This is not about horses on an equestrian center, though. I may have filled the question under a wrong categorie. It's a scene in an adventure novel set in Roman times. The horses are being chased by tribesmen and their dogs. The two heroes who ride them dismount at some point and hide. The horses keep running in terror, riderless, chased by the tribesmen. In their hiding place one of the heroes then says: "I can't stop thinking about those poor horses", and the other replies "they'll be OK, unless their wind is broken. These tribesmen don't kill horses." BUT he seems to imply that this "broken wind" will be their doom or will cause them to be permanently disabled. Earlier in the story when the heroes try to sell other horses, the man they're dealing with refuses to buy them because "their wind is broken". So, is it possible that after an excessive effort, an horse becomes in some way disabled, or chronically ill?
Peer comments on this reference comment:

disagree amefi : See http://www.answers.com/topic/wind
2 horas
I do not agree with you. This means the horses are out of breath. What would an equestrian centre be doing with horses with serious respiratory difficulties??
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