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Le concours des volontés des parties sur les termes de la présente convention

English translation: Agreement of the parties on the terms of this contract

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French term or phrase:Le concours des volontés des parties sur les termes de la présente convention
English translation:Agreement of the parties on the terms of this contract
Entered by: David BUICK

07:01 Aug 21, 2007
French to English translations [PRO]
Law/Patents - Law: Contract(s)
French term or phrase: Le concours des volontés des parties sur les termes de la présente convention
Le concours des volontés des parties sur les termes de la présente convention étant intervenu en octobre 2000 il est précisé que pour l'application du présent article le montant du loyer tel qu'il est fixé à l'article IV est établi en considérant que l'indice de base est, conformément à l'article 1728 du Code Civil, celui du mois de septembre 2000 soit 106,20 points.

This is in a Belgian lease agreement. In the 'Adjustement of rent' article. Any help or English links will be much appreciated. I just can't seem to grasp the sense of it. Thank you kindly!
Valosh
Agreement of the parties on the terms of this contract
Explanation:
I think it's just a case of de-gobbledegooking it a bit. It seems a very flowery way of saying something straightforward, even by legal standards.
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David BUICK
Local time: 08:50
Grading comment
I decided to keep it simple! Thank you to all who helped!
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Summary of answers provided
3 +3Agreement of the parties on the terms of this contract
David BUICK
4If "volonté" is really important ...
Bourth (X)
4consensus ad idem on the terms of this agreement having been reached
Neil Crockford
3The concurrence of the will of (both) parties on... took place on..
Béatrice Sylvie Lajoie
4 -1coincidence of the parties' will upon the contractual clauses
Laszlo Kocsis


  

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9 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +3
Agreement of the parties on the terms of this contract


Explanation:
I think it's just a case of de-gobbledegooking it a bit. It seems a very flowery way of saying something straightforward, even by legal standards.

David BUICK
Local time: 08:50
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 99
Grading comment
I decided to keep it simple! Thank you to all who helped!
Notes to answerer
Asker: Legal jargon can indeed be so obscure! Thank you for 'de-gobbledegooking' it!


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Bourth (X): Certainly conveys the basic meaning in simple terms.
1 hr
agree  Julie Barber: the parties agreed upon the terms of this contract in October 2000
3 hrs
agree  B D Finch: Simple, straightforward way of putting it.
4 hrs
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15 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
The concurrence of the will of (both) parties on... took place on..


Explanation:
Supreme Law Library : References : Bouvier's Law Dictionary : bldl1- The respective parties, the lessor and lessee, whose deed the lease is, ...... the concurrence of the will of the contracting parties took place or not. ...
www.supremelaw.org/ref/dict/bldl1.htm -


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Note added at 20 mins (2007-08-21 07:21:41 GMT)
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concours des volontés: le moment où deux parties arrivent à un accord sur un objet précis

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Note added at 28 mins (2007-08-21 07:30:35 GMT)
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Also: MUTUAL CONSENT


The consent of the parties, which is of the essence of the contract of. sale, consists in a concurrence of the will of the seller, to sell . . . , and of ...
www.law.indiana.edu/ilj/volumes/v79/no3/ricks.pdf

Béatrice Sylvie Lajoie
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
If "volonté" is really important ...


Explanation:
This can certainly be simplified in English - and, in my opinion, improved thereby - but if for any reason you feel the notion of "volonté" betrays something - such as interminable wrangling prior to this agreement - and that this is important and must be conveyed in the translation (maybe some francophones will comment on the possible connotations of the French), then you might want to consider something like:

The two parties came together/came to be of one mind regarding the terms ...

Bourth (X)
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consensus ad idem on the terms of this agreement having been reached


Explanation:
If you want to retain the legal flavour

Neil Crockford
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): -1
coincidence of the parties' will upon the contractual clauses


Explanation:
an agreement is reached when the wills of the contracting parties coincide -this is the static case , or converge -in the dynamic approach.This consent mainly concerns the details contained in the contractual clauses,besides the simple will of reaching an agreement.
another alternative could be :
the parties consent upon the contractual clauses

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Note added at 2 hrs (2007-08-21 10:01:03 GMT)
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or the parties consent upon the clauses of this present contract

Laszlo Kocsis
Local time: 08:50
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Native speaker of: Native in HungarianHungarian, Native in RomanianRomanian
PRO pts in category: 12

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  B D Finch: This just doesn't read as though it was written by a native speaker of English.
1 hr
  -> this phrase tried to be as close as possible to the meaning of the original , but you may look at my other alternatives and note !!,which form part of my response,also
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