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Oct 8, 2007 18:18
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French term

terre de bruyère

French to English Other Botany gardening
in a list of different products. I know what it is and what it is used for but no idea of the English.
Hope it is not in the glossaries because for some reason I cannot seem to access them for the moment....
Any gardening experts out there?
Thanks
Proposed translations (English)
4 +2 heath mould, heath peat
4 +5 ericaceous soil
1 peat

Discussion

Miranda Joubioux (X) Oct 9, 2007:
Since this is a list of products, be wary of using ericaceous soil - it's only soil when mixed with topsoil, otherwise it's compost. http://www.ahsdirect.co.uk/product/97/153/
http://www.johninnes.info/ericaceous.htm
Catherine CHAUVIN Oct 8, 2007:
J'ajoute que la terre de bruyère est très acide et humide, un peu noire comme la tourbe. Les sacs que j'achète proviennent le plus souvent de Grande-Bretagne....... Eh oui, on ne peut pas se passer de vous ! :-)
Catherine CHAUVIN Oct 8, 2007:
Bonjour Miranda. Le powpow était vraiment bien à Dinan. Pour répondre à ta question, je suis une grande consommatrice de terre de bruyère pour mes 105 hortensias et mes 8 rhododendrons (:-) J'ai donné mon accord à Tony. C'est la formule la plus courante.
Tony M Oct 8, 2007:
It also appears in Webster's at

http://www.websters-online-dictionary.com/translation/French...

...though to be honest, the definitions given there are pretty hopeless!
Miranda Joubioux (X) Oct 8, 2007:
Although heath-peat is also in my R+C CD 2004 under "terre", I've never actually heard this used by gardeners. It's either peat or ericaceous compost. I would opt for the latter, since it covers all possibilities.
Tony M Oct 8, 2007:
Well, it's certainly in my 2004 edition of the electronic 'le Grand Robert + Collins' version of the Super Senior, and I'm pretty sure it's in my old paper one too, as I know I've looked it up before...
CMJ_Trans (X) (asker) Oct 8, 2007:
which R & C do you have because in mine it's noticeable by its absence
CMJ_Trans (X) (asker) Oct 8, 2007:
really Tony ? Well it is not in any of mine and I've been trawling Internet - perhaps you could tell me one where it is found?
Tony M Oct 8, 2007:
No, but it is in quite a lot of dictionaries...!

Proposed translations

+2
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heath mould, heath peat

...at least, so says R+C!

It's ericaceous compost, I believe that means it will be acid, but in any case, it's very friable.
Peer comment(s):
agree Catherine CHAUVIN : you are right ! A very good stuff to grow hortensias, rhododendrons, etc...
2 hrs
Merci, Catherine !
agree Drmanu49
2 hrs
Thanks, Manu!
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "somehow I suspect this will be easier for those using the commodity list to understand...."
18 mins

peat

I am very hesitant and uncertain abou this, though... In some places, I find peat translated as terre de bruyere, but in others I find peat and terre de bruyere!
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+5
13 mins

ericaceous soil

usually in UK you see ericaceous compost but this may be termed soil - sorry, am in a bit of a rush but see one of the links mentions terreau


It'sfor plants that can't tolerate lime -

http://membres.lycos.fr/atev/bruyere.htm

Four Oaks Trade Show 2007 Exhibitor News
A Stervinou - Plantes de Terre de Bruyere. Ericaceous plants from France. A Stervinou is one of the best growers of ericaceous plants in Europe with over 60 ...
www.fouroaks-tradeshow.com/news.htm - 306k

Talking About The Garden
Then there's the muck to grow things in – le terreau (compost), la tourbe (peat), and la terre dite de bruyère (ericaceous soil for lime hating plants). ...
etcetera.awdpages.com/regular-features/richard-wares-language-notes/talking-about-the-garden.html -

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Note added at 14 mins (2007-10-08 18:33:06 GMT)
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La terre de bruyère : c'est un sol sableux donc perméable, riche en humus mais surtout acide (P.H.d'environ 4) le calcaire est donc quasi inexistant...Originaire des sous-bois riches en sable et des landes sableuses où les bruyères (d'où le nom) poussent naturellement.

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Note added at 1 hr (2007-10-08 20:08:07 GMT)
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isn't peat "tourbe"?
Peer comment(s):
agree Miranda Joubioux (X) : ericaceous compost is what it is now called - it used to be just plain peat, but for ecological reasons it's no longer the IN word cf. http://observer.guardian.co.uk/life/story/0,,668704,00.html
21 mins
peat is all over the place . as your link article confirms - no doubt ericaceoous stuff contains peat -difficult to find much compost that doesn't : ( - but probably has more sand, humus or acidity or whatever ericaceous plants want
agree Bourth (X) : Makes sense, erica being heather. http://www.eco-composting.co.uk/EcoEricaceousSoil.asp
33 mins
Thank you Bourth - interesting link
agree Tony M : Yes; although it SAYS 'terre', when you buy it in a garden centre, it's quite clearly a kind of 'compost'
34 mins
Thank you, Tony - yes - I've only bought a small bag once, as don't tend to live in acid soil areas or to go for such plants (esp. if against local soil type!) so am not v. fam. with its make-up
agree Claire Cox
1 hr
Thank you Claire:)
agree Drmanu49 : compost
2 hrs
Thank you Drmanu :)
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