Glossary entry

Spanish term or phrase:

"cifrado" y "partitura"

English translation:

figured and score

Added to glossary by Michael Powers (PhD)
Oct 5, 2004 01:10
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Spanish term

"cifrado" y "partitura"

Spanish to English Art/Literary Music Musical terms
The phrase goes like this:

"Convertir el cifrado en tumbao desde una partitura."

The illustration of the "cifrado" shows a very basic piano score with half-notes (blancas) written only for the left hand, and the note names written above each note (C, F, G, F)

Below the "cifrado" is the actual score, written for both hands and with full chords.

So, if the "partitura" is "score", what is the English (US) word for "cifrado"? I probably know the word, but have not been able to find a translation for the musical "cifrado" in any of my dictionaries.

Thanks for your help

Discussion

Ana Juliá Oct 5, 2004:
Ana Juliá Oct 5, 2004:
Non-ProZ.com Oct 5, 2004:
Muchas gracias, Ana. Es cierto lo que dices. Solo estoy renuente a utilizar la palabra "bass" porque en muchas de las partituras completas para varios instrumentos aparece la notacion para "electric bass" y queria evitar confusiones, ya que este cifrado especifico es de piano, pero si no existe un vocablo sencillo en ingles para denotar la palabra "cifrado", pues no me quedara otro remedio. Que tal eso de "key signature" que propone Pablo?
Ana Juliá Oct 5, 2004:
Non-ProZ.com Oct 5, 2004:
Got you. Thanks for your prompt help, but what about "cifrado" as a noun, rather than an adjective, as in "figured bass"?
Plain old "figured" does not sound like a noun to me.
See the phrase again:
Convertir el cifrado en tumbao desde una partitura
Turn the _________into a tumbao starting from a score

Proposed translations

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figured and score

Mike :)

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Aquí está la definición de \"cifrado\":

CM el portal de la música - [ Translate this page ]
El cifrado americano es un método sencillo de representación de acordes
y escalas por medio de letras. Este cifrado, consiste ...
www.cmtv.com.ar/tabla/cifrado.html - 8k - Cached - Similar pages

Peer comment(s):

agree Ana Juliá : figured bass and score
6 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thank you, Mike, Deborah and all. I will take my chances and use "figured bass"."
55 mins
Spanish term (edited): cifrado - partitura

key signature - score

La tercer oración "Below the "cifrado"" da a entender que "cifrado" es el cifrado tonal (key signature) expresado en letras y números sobre la partitura.
La segunda oración parece referirse al cifrado tonal expresado en la partitura como bemoles o sostenidos, a la derecha de la clave.
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Spanish term (edited): cifrado and partitura

"cifrado" figured/thorough bass (possibly) and "partitura" score

http://www.dpawson.co.uk/smrf/ and http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&q=figured ci...

At least this should set you on the right path!

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\"cifrado\" might also refer to \"fingering\" http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&q=music glos...

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For tumbao see http://www.drumdojo.com/learning/congaintro2.htm

For cifrado see http://www.keyboardexperience.com/kebass/kebass.htm

If you\'re talking about the conga, I\'d say that \"cifrado\" means \"strokes\" http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&q=conga drum...

If it\'s for piano or guitar or a wind instrument, I\'d say \"fingering\": http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&q=score fing...

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After seeing your questions, I wonder if what you are describing is what is called a \"lead sheet\" -- a sheet of just the main notes of a piece of music and from which a pianist or other musician improvises. If I understand correctly, the objective is to create a lead sheet from a full score. Just an idea since it seems that the traditional meanings aren\'t working. See http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=lang_en&ie=UTF-8&as_qd...

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As you will see from the link above, the \"lead sheet\" is also a teaching device and contains not just lead notes but lead chords. Since what happens in the bass determines what happens in the piece, it is possible that the sheet could show only the left hand.

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I think I may have muddied my own explanation by referring to the bass. There are bass lead sheets but the clef really doesn\'t matter. The point is that it\'s bare bones. This link contains a description of the process I think is described in your text. It happens that this author\'s example focuses on the treble clef, but you don\'t say what clef the left hand is in, so perhaps this example works. http://members.dancris.com/~bfraser/etc/DomainRules.html

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In the link, the example is in lesson 4.

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Note added at 10 hrs 55 mins (2004-10-05 12:05:29 GMT)
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If this suits your context, CIFRADO Y PARTITURA then mean LEAD SHEET AND SCORE.
Peer comment(s):

agree Felix Ortiz (X)
2 mins
agree Margaret Schroeder
14 mins
neutral Ana Juliá : No creo que se refiera a "fingering", porque entonces no aparecerían las notas encima, sino los números de los dedos.
6 hrs
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