Glossary entry (derived from question below)
German term or phrase:
barrierefrei
English translation:
accessible
Apr 21, 2005 11:26
19 yrs ago
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German term
Eke Eijgelaar (X)
barrierefrei
German to English
Social Sciences
Social Science, Sociology, Ethics, etc.
I know it's been asked before, but should 'barrierefreies eGovernment' or 'barrierefreies Internet' be 'accesible ..' or 'fully-accessible ..'? And 'Barrierefreiheit', simply 'Accessibility'?
Proposed translations
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| 4 +5 | accessible |
Ian M-H (X)
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| 4 +1 | barrier-free (auch hier, s. Link) |
VerenaH (X)
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| 4 | unrestricted |
vhz
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| 4 -1 | unfettered |
mckinnc
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| 3 -1 | unlimited |
Gert Sass (M.A.)
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Change log
Apr 22, 2005 10:57: Ian M-H (X) changed "Field" from "Science" to "Social Sciences" , "Field (specific)" from "Science (general)" to "Social Science, Sociology, Ethics, etc."
Proposed translations
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accessible
I can't see any reason not to use the standard "accessible" for these, whether the context is disability or broad access for other potentially excuded groups (e.g. speakers of minority languages).
I'd reserve "fully" for cases where the original has an equivalent qualifier, though - if something is said to be "accessible" then I'd assume that it is just that, i.e. (reasonably) fully accessible.
One useful source is the official UK Disabilioty Rights Commission and one of their publications reports specifically on web accessibility for disabled people:
http://www.drc-gb.org/publicationsandreports/2.pdf
And yes - to answer your second question - I'd stick with "accessibility" for "Barrierefreiheit".
I'd reserve "fully" for cases where the original has an equivalent qualifier, though - if something is said to be "accessible" then I'd assume that it is just that, i.e. (reasonably) fully accessible.
One useful source is the official UK Disabilioty Rights Commission and one of their publications reports specifically on web accessibility for disabled people:
http://www.drc-gb.org/publicationsandreports/2.pdf
And yes - to answer your second question - I'd stick with "accessibility" for "Barrierefreiheit".
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "cheers Ian"
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unrestricted
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Peer comment(s):
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Sladjana Spaic
: I would also use that term :-)
4 mins
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| disagree |
Ian M-H (X)
: Unrestricted e-government? And "unrestricted internet" sounds more like uncensored (or free!) internet access than a "barrierefreies" internet to me.
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Gert Sass (M.A.)
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unlimited
unlimited access for Barrierefreiheit. If it is only a question of access there are no other barriers to getting what you want (like, for instance, language barriers) the German word Barrierefreiheit sounds a bit pathetic anyway, IMHO
Peer comment(s):
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Ian M-H (X)
: "unlimited access" sounds like "visit as often as you like" or an ISP product, not a lack of barriers
1 hr
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-1
19 mins
unfettered
...is the word that comes to mind. This is a particularly common collocation with Internet access. See:
swissinfo:Geneva test drives broadband internet access
... Unfettered internet access could bring neighbours closer together (SIG).
Unfettered internet access could bring neighbours closer together (SIG) ...
www.swissinfo.org/sen/swissinfo.html?siteSect=2105& sid=4468211&cKey=1069865792000 - 23k - Cached - Similar pages
Medical Study Says Knowledge Makes People Sick, Advocates Internet ...
... Internet access: Unfettered Internet access breeds crime and illness. ...
Watch for a stepped-up campaign showing that unfettered Internet access ...
www.atsnn.com/story/90382.html - 27k - Cached - Similar pages
Palisade Systems Network Security - ScreenDoor Internet Management ...
... protecting you from the potential bandwidth, liability, and productivity
problems introduced by allowing unfettered Internet access on your network. ...
www.palisadesys.com/products/screendoor/index.shtml - 65k - Cached - Similar pages
freedomforum.org: California library prepares to defend Internet ...
... "Unfettered Internet access is not unique to her and her son. ... Instead of
allowing unfettered Internet access, the Loudoun County Library provides ...
www.freedomforum.org/templates/ document.asp?documentID=9088 - 17k - Cached - Similar pages
ALA | Guidelines and Considerations for Developing a Public ...
... Since libraries, opponents of unfettered Internet access say, are not constrained
to select any particular materials for their collections, filtering is ...
www.ala.org/alaorg/oif/internet.html - 46k - Cached - Similar pages
swissinfo:Geneva test drives broadband internet access
... Unfettered internet access could bring neighbours closer together (SIG).
Unfettered internet access could bring neighbours closer together (SIG) ...
www.swissinfo.org/sen/swissinfo.html?siteSect=2105& sid=4468211&cKey=1069865792000 - 23k - Cached - Similar pages
Medical Study Says Knowledge Makes People Sick, Advocates Internet ...
... Internet access: Unfettered Internet access breeds crime and illness. ...
Watch for a stepped-up campaign showing that unfettered Internet access ...
www.atsnn.com/story/90382.html - 27k - Cached - Similar pages
Palisade Systems Network Security - ScreenDoor Internet Management ...
... protecting you from the potential bandwidth, liability, and productivity
problems introduced by allowing unfettered Internet access on your network. ...
www.palisadesys.com/products/screendoor/index.shtml - 65k - Cached - Similar pages
freedomforum.org: California library prepares to defend Internet ...
... "Unfettered Internet access is not unique to her and her son. ... Instead of
allowing unfettered Internet access, the Loudoun County Library provides ...
www.freedomforum.org/templates/ document.asp?documentID=9088 - 17k - Cached - Similar pages
ALA | Guidelines and Considerations for Developing a Public ...
... Since libraries, opponents of unfettered Internet access say, are not constrained
to select any particular materials for their collections, filtering is ...
www.ala.org/alaorg/oif/internet.html - 46k - Cached - Similar pages
Peer comment(s):
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Ian M-H (X)
: This sounds appropriate in contexts such as those in your links (unrestricted, without censorship, unlimited, no-questions-asked) but not in Asker's context. What would "unfettered eGovernment" mean? ;-)
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I think you've failed to notice that some of those links are used in the sense of "bridging teh digital divide", whihc is to do with universal access as here. Also, I did explain that "unfettered" works best with Internet access
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+1
12 mins
barrier-free (auch hier, s. Link)
Barrierefrei ist im Deutschen ein Ausdruck, dass einem keine Hindernisse in den Weh gestellt werden (besonders i. Zshg. von Behinderung). Dieser Sinn ist im EN genauso gebräuchlich, mMn spricht nichts dagegen, auch hier diesen Term beizubehalten.
http://www.google.de/search?hl=de&q=barrier-free disabilitie...
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Note added at 3 hrs 18 mins (2005-04-21 14:44:53 GMT)
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Look here:
http://www.google.de/search?hl=de&q=barrier-free egovernment...
\"barrier-free eGovernment\"
is in use already :-)
http://www.google.de/search?hl=de&q=barrier-free disabilitie...
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Note added at 3 hrs 18 mins (2005-04-21 14:44:53 GMT)
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Look here:
http://www.google.de/search?hl=de&q=barrier-free egovernment...
\"barrier-free eGovernment\"
is in use already :-)
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Frosty
4 mins
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Ian M-H (X)
: Wird im Englischen benutzt, sicher, aber "genauso gebräuchlich"? // Barrier Reef government sounds great, whether "e" or not ;-)
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Hi Ian - I added the link for the Google hits for "barrier-free eGovernment". It is an allure to the context of disabilities in both cases, that's what I meant w/ "gebräuchlich" Let's just be glad it's not a barrier-reef eGovernment - just typoed it...;-)
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