Glossary entry

English term or phrase:

Veliky or Velikii?

English answer:

There is no generally accepted standard

Added to glossary by Expressão, Lda.
Aug 30, 2010 16:00
13 yrs ago
English term

Veliky or Velikii?

English Other Geography name of a city
Veliky/Velikii Novgorod: it appears in a russian diploma, and we don't know how to correctly spell it in english .
Thank you so much!!!

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There is no generally accepted standard

Could be Veliky, Veliki, Velikii or Velikiy. Various institutions and government departments have their own transliteration tables. Under they system used by the BBC Monitoring Service, where I worked for 27 years, it would be Velikiy.
If the client has other official documents (passport, for instance) in which it is transliterated in a certain way, it might be best to transliterate it the same way, for conformity.
Peer comment(s):

agree Veronika McLaren
2 hrs
Thank you.
agree Sabine Akabayov, PhD
6 hrs
Thank you.
agree Deborah Hoffman : Thanks for the tidbit: I never knew that -iy was BBC; my default is LOC which would be -ii.
12 hrs
Thank you. I'm not even sure it applies throughout the BBC, it may just be at BBC Monitoring that they use this system (or did - could have changed).
agree Joyce A : I currently live in Thailand and have the same problem. There are so many variations on geographic names though there is a drive to standardize.
12 hrs
Thank you.
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10 mins

Veliky Novgorod/ Velikiy Novgorod

Both seem to be valid and accpeted options.
Peer comment(s):

agree Maria Chmelarova
1 hr
Thank you, Maria.
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41 mins

Velikiy

A google search as follows:

Velikiy +Novgorod site:.gov

which searches for .gov websites gets 10x more responses than Veliky or Velikii. So that gives you a style standard from the U.S. government.

HERE ARE A FEW SAMPLES OF US GOVT WEBSITES:

A Russian girl meets her newborn brother as part of Velikiy Novgorod hospital’s family centered maternity care program. (Photo: USAID / John Snow Inc.)
http://geneva.usmission.gov/2010/06/14/us-russian-mch/

In 1992 UNESCO added its chief monuments to the World Heritage list. In 1998, the city was officially renamed Velikiy Novgorod, recalling its medieval title "Lord Novgorod the Great".
http://www.cityofrochester.gov/article.aspx?id=8589938076

Residents of Velikiy Novgorod should apply through the Pony Express office at Gzen River Embankment 11, office 410, or by calling (8162) 335167.
http://stpetersburg.usconsulate.gov/how-to-apply.html

Creator/Author Popov, Alexey V. [Novgorod State University, B.S.-Peterburgskaya Street 41, 173003 Velikiy Novgorod (Russian Federation)]
http://www.osti.gov/energycitations/product.biblio.jsp?osti_...
Note from asker:
Thank you Stephanie!
Peer comment(s):

agree Alexandra Taggart : It would sound right as well.Means "Great Novgorod". It could be "Gr. Novgorod" if to take "St.Petersburg" as an example.
34 mins
Thanks Alexandra
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1 hr

Veliky

I recommend you the first variant (Veliky).
Velikiy is correct from the relevant transliteration rule point of view and closer to Russian pronounciation.
But you could hardly find similar ending (-iy) in any serious book with a list of geographic names (like English - Russian Dictionary or translated guides) published in Russia.
I should add that my name is Dmitry. I never put it like Dmitriy.
My mother originated from Nizhny Novgorod region. You could refer to official site of this city administration. http://admgor.nnov.ru/english/index.html
Note from asker:
Rhank you mathdan :)
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