Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
performances chiffrées
English translation:
(performance) target figures
Added to glossary by
Louis Cyril P
Jan 6, 2011 06:11
13 yrs ago
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French term
performances chiffrées
French to English
Social Sciences
General / Conversation / Greetings / Letters
immigration policy
Hello, I am translating an NGO press release about how Moroccan authorities have been arresting and deporting alot of people, as part of agreements with the European Union to prevent sub-saharan Africans from migrating into Europe
"Les accords incluent-ils des "performances" chiffrées ou les autorités marocaines font-elle preuve d'un zèle particulier?
How would "performances chiffrées" best be translated here?
thanks to everyone in advance
"Les accords incluent-ils des "performances" chiffrées ou les autorités marocaines font-elle preuve d'un zèle particulier?
How would "performances chiffrées" best be translated here?
thanks to everyone in advance
Proposed translations
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| 4 +6 | (performance) target figures |
Louis Cyril P
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| 4 | statistics |
guest1234 (X)
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| 4 | quantifiable performance data |
Sarah Bessioud
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| 3 | measured in terms of numbers ( number of arrests) |
mimi 254
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Change log
Jan 6, 2011 08:09: Stéphanie Soudais changed "Field (specific)" from "Other" to "General / Conversation / Greetings / Letters"
Jan 11, 2011 10:52: Louis Cyril P Created KOG entry
Proposed translations
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(performance) target figures
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jlsgaladriel
: Yes -- I think it's a question of whether the agreement itself includes quantifiable goals
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polyglot45
: OK but use "performance targets" without the "figures" IMHO
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Spiridon
: Yes agree
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Evans (X)
: I would go with "performance targets" as polyglot suggests
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AllegroTrans
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Yvonne Gallagher
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thank you Louis Cyril P, and everyone that commented
I think this is the closest to the meaning in the context. "Performance targets" as well as slight variations like "performance target figures" or "numerical performance targets" express most closely the meaning within the political context. It's slightly clunkly English but to me it's okay, it's true it woudl be more elegant to restructure the sentence because an exact translation does not really exist, but I'd rather not because i want to preserve the general structure by the author
Thanks so much all!"
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statistics
statistics represent reality with numbers
Peer comment(s):
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jlsgaladriel
: Statistics are an after-the-fact sort of thing; I don't think they're wondering if the numbers are being kept track of, but rather if there are target numbers.
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AllegroTrans
: disagree with previous comment - statistics can just as easily be ongoing
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measured in terms of numbers ( number of arrests)
I'd rephrase it and say something like: Is the implementation of these agreements measured/evaluated in terms of the number of arrests or are Moroccan authorities just being overzealous
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Are these agreements measured in terms of numbers....
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Are these agreements measured in terms of numbers....
Note from asker:
| thank you for your suggestion! i think you're right that it's better english to reprhase, because an exact translation does not exist, but it's not my text so i dont really want to change it too much bc of political sensitivities Thanks alot though |
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Sarah Bessioud
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quantifiable performance data
ie. objective, quantifiable (or quantified) data that can be measured in terms of figures, as opposed to subjective opinion.
http://www.c2d.co.uk/Culturaldiversity.pdf
It is still too early to have any meaningful quantifiable performance data - although early indications are positive.
http://www.starvmax.com/forum/13-technical-vmax-discussion/9...
Every time I see an ad or some claim about "ramming", there is never any quantifiable performance data. I wonder why that is? We need quantifiable results...
http://www.corporateregister.com/reviews/item/?n=60
There are clearly some misrepresentations in the GRI Index, and the quantifiable performance data in this report is very lightweight
http://www.c2d.co.uk/Culturaldiversity.pdf
It is still too early to have any meaningful quantifiable performance data - although early indications are positive.
http://www.starvmax.com/forum/13-technical-vmax-discussion/9...
Every time I see an ad or some claim about "ramming", there is never any quantifiable performance data. I wonder why that is? We need quantifiable results...
http://www.corporateregister.com/reviews/item/?n=60
There are clearly some misrepresentations in the GRI Index, and the quantifiable performance data in this report is very lightweight
Note from asker:
| thanks so much, this is very helpful, i think this is close to the meaning as well, but i thought "targets" was a slightly better word than "data" in this context |
Discussion
but let me explain a bit more of the context, the rest of the press release is about how Morocco suddenly conducted raids and wave of arrests at the end of 2010.
So i think the question I copied in above in French, is raising a question about whether the Moroccan government is carrying out these arrests, to meet performance requirements imposed by Europe.
So I think "performance chiffré" refers to something like a "quota"
But I didn't know if I should translate "performance chiffré" as quota, because quota is a pretty specific term in english
So i wondered if it's better to put like "numerical requirements"...