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Hard line abdicator

French translation: un défaitiste endurci

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English term or phrase:Hard line abdicator
French translation:un défaitiste endurci
Entered by: FX Fraipont (X)

09:21 Feb 21, 2018
English to French translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - Education / Pedagogy / Learning Teaching
English term or phrase: Hard line abdicator
The hard-line abdicator is often the very same student who often complain at the end of courses
AkretcheFazia
United States
Local time: 13:18
un défaitiste endurci
Explanation:
explained in preceding paragraph. An abdicator is a student who gives up any hope of succeeding

"You may still come across the 100% 'abdicating' student- one who gives up a
right to make any decision about his own future. It's worth pointing out to such
a student that he is crediting me, the teacher, with magical, wizard-like 'mind-
reading' abilities. My response will probably be to state that, yes, I do know
something about language and teaching, but I am not an expert on him and have
no insight into the inside of his head, his past life and learning, his preferences
or his future plans. "

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Note added at 3 hrs (2018-02-21 13:10:46 GMT)
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il faut que le lecteur français comprenne certes, mais il faut traduite le texte source aussi.
Cela n'a rien à voir avec l'insatisfaction : "abdicating' student- one who gives up a right to make any decision about his own future"

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Note added at 23 hrs (2018-02-22 08:31:56 GMT)
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I have a whole teaching career behind me - I'm pretty well placed to know what "abdicators" are : puplis who don't even try any more, aka des défaitistes.
"Insatisfait" est un parfait contresens.

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Note added at 23 hrs (2018-02-22 08:49:52 GMT)
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"Students who abdicate or minimize their own power as active learners will rely excessively on the field instructor, request frequent direction about practice, and avoid questioning their own or others’ practice. They avoid offering opinions or provide only positive feedback about
any aspect of their experience in the practicum.
Educating Field Instructors and Students to Deal with Challenges in Their Teaching Relationships
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/233328381_Educating... [accessed Feb 22 2018].
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FX Fraipont (X)
Belgium
Local time: 20:18
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Summary of answers provided
4 +3un défaitiste endurci
FX Fraipont (X)
4 +1aquoiboniste pur et dur
surbeg
3démissionnaire invétéré
Zeineb Nalouti
3capitulateur/renonciateur à tout crin/inébranlable/ invertéré
Anne-Marie Laliberté (X)


  

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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
hard line abdicator
démissionnaire invétéré


Explanation:
l'étudiant a cessé de réfléchir à son avenir depuis longtemps - d'où le sens de démission

Zeineb Nalouti
Tunisia
Local time: 19:18
Native speaker of: Native in ArabicArabic, Native in FrenchFrench
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
hard line abdicator
aquoiboniste pur et dur


Explanation:
https://www.universalis.fr/dictionnaire/aquoiboniste/
http://aquoiboniste.over-blog.com/pages/Questce_que_laquoibo...

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Note added at 1 hr (2018-02-21 11:08:05 GMT)
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ou, en plus familier, je-m'en-foutiste confirmé.

http://www.cnrtl.fr/lexicographie/je-m'en-foutiste

surbeg
France
Local time: 20:18
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  GILLES MEUNIER: je-m'en-foutiste confirmé, j'aime bien, ça a un sens en français
1 day 31 mins
neutral  Maximilien Petitjean: "Un je-m'en-foutiste patenté" ^^
2 days 8 hrs
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17 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +3
hard line abdicator
un défaitiste endurci


Explanation:
explained in preceding paragraph. An abdicator is a student who gives up any hope of succeeding

"You may still come across the 100% 'abdicating' student- one who gives up a
right to make any decision about his own future. It's worth pointing out to such
a student that he is crediting me, the teacher, with magical, wizard-like 'mind-
reading' abilities. My response will probably be to state that, yes, I do know
something about language and teaching, but I am not an expert on him and have
no insight into the inside of his head, his past life and learning, his preferences
or his future plans. "

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Note added at 3 hrs (2018-02-21 13:10:46 GMT)
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il faut que le lecteur français comprenne certes, mais il faut traduite le texte source aussi.
Cela n'a rien à voir avec l'insatisfaction : "abdicating' student- one who gives up a right to make any decision about his own future"

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Note added at 23 hrs (2018-02-22 08:31:56 GMT)
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I have a whole teaching career behind me - I'm pretty well placed to know what "abdicators" are : puplis who don't even try any more, aka des défaitistes.
"Insatisfait" est un parfait contresens.

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Note added at 23 hrs (2018-02-22 08:49:52 GMT)
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"Students who abdicate or minimize their own power as active learners will rely excessively on the field instructor, request frequent direction about practice, and avoid questioning their own or others’ practice. They avoid offering opinions or provide only positive feedback about
any aspect of their experience in the practicum.
Educating Field Instructors and Students to Deal with Challenges in Their Teaching Relationships
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/233328381_Educating... [accessed Feb 22 2018].

FX Fraipont (X)
Belgium
Local time: 20:18
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 433
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Maximilien Petitjean
2 hrs
  -> thanks!
agree  Marielle Akamatsu
22 hrs
agree  Eric KUATE FOTSO
1 day 40 mins
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2 days 7 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
hard line abdicator
capitulateur/renonciateur à tout crin/inébranlable/ invertéré


Explanation:
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Anne-Marie Laliberté (X)
Local time: 14:18
Native speaker of: French
PRO pts in category: 65
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