Proofreader changed my translation with obvious mistakes Tópico cartaz: Florence Risser
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Florence Risser
França
Local time: 23:25
Membro (2020)
alemão para francês
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Hello everyone,
What would you do if you discover that your translation has been proofread / changed with mistakes and is now published like this ?
I didn't translate it like this, and I can't accept that it is published (on website) with obvious mistakes.
Tell my client (who is not the final client) ? And they will have to apologize to their own client and change the website.
And of course I'm very disappointed to see the modified translation.
Thanks... See more Hello everyone,
What would you do if you discover that your translation has been proofread / changed with mistakes and is now published like this ?
I didn't translate it like this, and I can't accept that it is published (on website) with obvious mistakes.
Tell my client (who is not the final client) ? And they will have to apologize to their own client and change the website.
And of course I'm very disappointed to see the modified translation.
Thanks
Florence ▲ Collapse
| | | | Adieu 
ucraniano para inglês
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| If it has no visible link to you | Oct 19, 2021 |
Shrug and chuckle
Who cares what clients do with our work? Their mistakes, their problem.
| | | | Christine Andersen
Dinamarca
Local time: 23:25
Membro (2003)
dinamarquês para inglês
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| It is maddening, but it happens | Oct 19, 2021 |
As long as no one can link your name to it, the best thing to do is close your eyes and try to forget it. Everything can be said in several ways, and some are more elegant and correct than others. It is the client's text, and they have paid for it, so in principle they can do what they like.
However, you should keep e-mails or other records of what you delivered, if there is any chance of complaints.
I have at least once had an end client on the phone asking what I meant by de... See more As long as no one can link your name to it, the best thing to do is close your eyes and try to forget it. Everything can be said in several ways, and some are more elegant and correct than others. It is the client's text, and they have paid for it, so in principle they can do what they like.
However, you should keep e-mails or other records of what you delivered, if there is any chance of complaints.
I have at least once had an end client on the phone asking what I meant by delivering the text he received. After calming him down and getting hold of the text he was talking about, I was able to show him it was very different from what I really delivered. Then he apologised, and we agreed on a final version. (There was some extra space to fill in a catalogue and we added a little more text.)
If you do it diplomatically, you may be lucky and earn some goodwill.
The problem arises if you are asked to translate an update the next year or whenever. In that case I would point out that my version was changed, and that I did not agree with the changes, so the new translation will revert to the correct form. ▲ Collapse
| | | | | Stuff happens. | Oct 19, 2021 |
C'est la vie.
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| It feels awful | Oct 20, 2021 |
I know, it feels awful, because which of us wouldn't like to see our translation nicely posted on a site?
Now you can't even mention it in your portfolio!
You can write a final letter to the client, very serious, explaning that there are REALLY, REALLY mistakes in that text and that it doesn't look professional, that this will also damage their reputation.
I once checked the website of a couple friends who made jewelry. It was in Spanish and translated to E... See more I know, it feels awful, because which of us wouldn't like to see our translation nicely posted on a site?
Now you can't even mention it in your portfolio!
You can write a final letter to the client, very serious, explaning that there are REALLY, REALLY mistakes in that text and that it doesn't look professional, that this will also damage their reputation.
I once checked the website of a couple friends who made jewelry. It was in Spanish and translated to English (I didn't translate the website), I found several mistakes and told them. I was not doing any proofreading job or charging them, I was just reading the text. As they wanted to export their products to English-speaking countries, they were concerned and made the changes. They were very thankful to me... I was rewarded with a lovely necklace!
Good luck! ▲ Collapse
| | | | Tom in London
Reino Unido
Local time: 22:25
Membro (2008)
italiano para inglês
| Don't lose any sleep | Oct 20, 2021 |
The customer is always right - even when they're wrong.
| | | | Florence Risser
França
Local time: 23:25
Membro (2020)
alemão para francês
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CRIADOR(A) DO TÓPICO | No link to my name | Oct 20, 2021 |
Christine Andersen wrote:
As long as no one can link your name to it, the best thing to do is close your eyes and try to forget it. Everything can be said in several ways, and some are more elegant and correct than others. It is the client's text, and they have paid for it, so in principle they can do what they like.
However, you should keep e-mails or other records of what you delivered, if there is any chance of complaints.
I have at least once had an end client on the phone asking what I meant by delivering the text he received. After calming him down and getting hold of the text he was talking about, I was able to show him it was very different from what I really delivered. Then he apologised, and we agreed on a final version. (There was some extra space to fill in a catalogue and we added a little more text.)
If you do it diplomatically, you may be lucky and earn some goodwill.
The problem arises if you are asked to translate an update the next year or whenever. In that case I would point out that my version was changed, and that I did not agree with the changes, so the new translation will revert to the correct form.
Thanks, no there is no link to me and I have my original translation, that I transmitted to my client.
| | | | Florence Risser
França
Local time: 23:25
Membro (2020)
alemão para francês
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CRIADOR(A) DO TÓPICO | No mention in portfolio! | Oct 20, 2021 |
[quote]Cristina Heraud-van Tol wrote:
I know, it feels awful, because which of us wouldn't like to see our translation nicely posted on a site?
Now you can't even mention it in your portfolio!
You can write a final letter to the client, very serious, explaning that there are REALLY, REALLY mistakes in that text and that it doesn't look professional, that this will also damage their reputation.
Thanks for your advice.
Really not possible to mention in portfolio!
I will perhaps send an email to the end client to tell him that I have seen mistakes in his website. Not sure yet, if I will do it...
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Min Xuanping
China
Local time: 06:25
Membro
inglês para chinês
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| Mutual trust and being tolerant. | Oct 20, 2021 |
The client is solely responsible for quality control. Translators and reviewers should have maximum mutual respect on each other's work. I always accept any changes to my translation during finalization as long as their changes only relate to style. Different translators have different style preference. You must forget about your style preference when your job is proofread by a reviewer who is trusted by the client.
| | | | Robert Rietvelt
Local time: 23:25
Membro (2006)
espanhol para holandês
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I notify the client. If their response is negative, I'll let them know that I don't accept any responsibility, it is not 'my translation' anymore. So, if there is a complaint, don't call me.
| | | | Florence Risser
França
Local time: 23:25
Membro (2020)
alemão para francês
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CRIADOR(A) DO TÓPICO | Grammar mistakes | Oct 20, 2021 |
Min Xuanping wrote:
The client is solely responsible for quality control. Translators and reviewers should have maximum mutual respect on each other's work. I always accept any changes to my translation during finalization as long as their changes only relate to style. Different translators have different style preference. You must forget about your style preference when your job is proofread by a reviewer who is trusted by the client.
I agree, there must be a lot of mutual respect between translators and proofreaders. I don't mind if sentences have been changed for style. But there are now grammar mistakes and a whole paragraphe is translated with "he", when we are talking about a woman.
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I hope my experience serves you right. Some years ago a similar case happened to me and like you I was extremely disappointed. As a result I emailed the client (luckily very politely) saying that I was surprised to see that my translation had been changed with a few grammar mistakes. Much to my dismay I found out that he was the “perpetrator”. He deeply resented my intrusion in his affairs…
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Adieu
ucraniano para inglês
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| Strongly disagree | Oct 20, 2021 |
There is absolutely NO reason to guarantee even the tiniest bit of respect to undeserving colleagues.
But there is also no reason to contact the client. Lots of favorites, nephews, spouses, concubines/assistants, and even know-it-all CEOs adding their "personal touch" at the very last stage... plenty of opportunities to offend and very little possibility to benefit.
| | | | Florence Risser
França
Local time: 23:25
Membro (2020)
alemão para francês
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CRIADOR(A) DO TÓPICO
Teresa Borges wrote:
I hope my experience serves you right. Some years ago a similar case happened to me and like you I was extremely disappointed. As a result I emailed the client (luckily very politely) saying that I was surprised to see that my translation had been changed with a few grammar mistakes. Much to my dismay I found out that he was the “perpetrator”. He deeply resented my intrusion in his affairs…
Thanks for your message. Maybe my client changed the translation himself, or one of his friend, before giving it to the end client. So, if my client thinks that the translation is perfect, I'm not going to say something else... As said Tom, the customer is always right, even when he's wrong !
| | | | jyuan_us
Estados Unidos
Local time: 17:25
Membro (2005)
inglês para chinês
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| Why do you want to mention it in your portfolio in the first place? | Oct 21, 2021 |
Cristina Heraud-van Tol wrote:
Now you can't even mention it in your portfolio!
Is it neccessary to list every project you have done in your portfolio? And even if you do list that project in your portfolio, you don't need to list the website that contains your translation that has been ruined by the proofreader. Furthermore, even if you do put that website in your portfolio, no client would really be reviewing that website to screen for the mistakes on it.
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